Hi,

I had sent all my stock of original version Oudies to Naviter for upgrade to
the new bright screen, but due to the delay with the Oudie2s and customer
requests, I have received the original version Oudies back. I have the
following items in stock.

Original Version Oudie, New, $495 (I have many of these. They can be
upgraded to Oudie2 units in the fall for $60 plus shipping (about $40?) to
Slovenia and back.)
Original Version Oudie, Used (with the latest software upgrades and all
accessories), $395 (I have only one of these. It can be upgraded for about
$240 plus shipping.)
Used Oudie2, this is the unit I flew with in our DG-1000 for several years.
It has been upgraded with the new bright screen and the latest software. It
is like new. It is identical to the Oudie2 units other than its age. $595.
(I have only 1 of these.)
You can order the first 2 options on my web site. Please call or e-mail me
about the 3rd item.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm

I should have many Oudie 2 units in stock by mid-August.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

Paul,

I've sent you couple of emails a while back with no reply, not sure if they got caught in your spam filter or if you're too busy.

I think new Oudie 2 has issues working with Cambridge 302. See my email for more details.

Limus

Hi Limus,

I only have this 1 e-mail (below) in my e-mail inbox from you.

What is the issue you are having with the 302 and Oudie2.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
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"Limus" wrote in message
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Paul,

I've sent you couple of emails a while back with no reply, not sure if they
got caught in your spam filter or if you're too busy.

I think new Oudie 2 has issues working with Cambridge 302. See my email for
more details.

Limus

Sent you an email again.

At 01:17 17 July 2012, Limus wrote:
>Sent you an email again.
>

As an alternative - take a look at www.gliderguider.net
It runs mSeeYou, LK-8000 and more!

At 07:06 18 July 2012, Allan Arthurs wrote:
>At 01:17 17 July 2012, Limus wrote:
>>Sent you an email again.
>>
>
>As an alternative - take a look at www.gliderguider.net
>It runs mSeeYou, LK-8000 and more!
>
Or www.verticasports.com. Established business, delivery date quoted,
prototype under evaluation by the LK8000 team.

Does the Oudie 2 still have the track smoothing problem?

These are nice units - appear to be essentially the same as the Oudie 2 with possibly a better internal GPS (no "smoothing" issue)

That being said - I'm using an Oudie 2, both with external GPS and vario data in my LS6 and as a standalone nav unit in club gliders, and I'm really happy with it - the screen is fully readable even in bright Arizona sunlight, and while the internal GPS does have a bit of a problem while thermalling, it's still fully usable for navigation and final glides. Biggest effect I've noticed is that thermalling circles are a bit jagged - but with no vario input, SYM is pretty weak as a thermalling aid anyway.

As far as price - broadly speaking, by the time you get all the bits and pieces put together, the difference is the price of the software (Duh!). I've been using SYM for several years now and really like it; having played around with LK8000 (pretty, but way too many numbers that I don't need or want to see!) and XCSoar (pretty, but still can't setup the display the way I want, and it does things I don't want without a way to shut them off) it was a no-brainer to go with the O2 and stay with SYM. Also, those other devices are still not shipping yet!

But if you like LK or XCS (and they are both impressive software with some features I hope SYM will copy soon), then these other systems make a lot of sense - and the smoothed GPS could be a decider if it was going to be mainly a standalone unit.

It's all fun stuff!

Kirk
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At 08:51 18 July 2012, Richard Brisbourne wrote:

>>As an alternative - take a look at www.gliderguider.net
>>It runs mSeeYou, LK-8000 and more!
>>
>
>Does the Oudie 2 still have the track smoothing problem?
>

I dont know Richard, but if its using the *Atlas GPS chipset there is no
way to dissable Track Smoothing (and a bunch of other stuff).

Kind regards
Allan

Only Atlas GSD4t chipsets have this problem.
It is not true that all Atlas GPS are affected.
You should ask Naviter to be sure.

Paolo





"Allan Arthurs" wrote in message
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At 08:51 18 July 2012, Richard Brisbourne wrote:

>Does the Oudie 2 still have the track smoothing problem?
>

I dont know Richard, but if its using the *Atlas GPS chipset there is no
way to dissable Track Smoothing (and a bunch of other stuff).

Kind regards
Allan

I have seen the display on this unit at Glider Guider and it is very
readable even in bright light.
Graham


At 12:32 19 July 2012, Allan Arthurs wrote:
>At 08:51 18 July 2012, Richard Brisbourne wrote:
>
>>>As an alternative - take a look at www.gliderguider.net
>>>It runs mSeeYou, LK-8000 and more!
>>>
>>
>>Does the Oudie 2 still have the track smoothing problem?
>>
>
>I dont know Richard, but if its using the *Atlas GPS chipset there is no
>way to dissable Track Smoothing (and a bunch of other stuff).
>
>Kind regards
>Allan
>
>

Having flown around 10 hours using the Vertica V1 with LK8000 in bright
sunlight (mostly) wearing sunglasses I can report it was highly readable
the whole time- as good as paper.

Reputedly the Vertica V2 uses the same screen as GliderGuider, and is
probably the same device sold through a different channel. As mentioned in
a previous post, it's promised by the end of August. My experience of
Vertica as a supplier (and the work I know is being done by the LK8000
team) suggests the promise will be met.


At 06:49 20 July 2012, Graham Paul wrote:
>I have seen the display on this unit at Glider Guider and it is very
>readable even in bright light.
>Graham
>
>
>At 12:32 19 July 2012, Allan Arthurs wrote:
>>At 08:51 18 July 2012, Richard Brisbourne wrote:
>>
>>>>As an alternative - take a look at www.gliderguider.net
>>>>It runs mSeeYou, LK-8000 and more!
>>>>
>>>
>>>Does the Oudie 2 still have the track smoothing problem?
>>>
>>
>>I dont know Richard, but if its using the *Atlas GPS chipset there is no
>>way to dissable Track Smoothing (and a bunch of other stuff).
>>
>>Kind regards
>>Allan
>>
>>
>
>